Joker: Folie à Deux - w/ Movies & Us on How it Might be Good?

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Jen & Sarah from the Movies & Us podcast join Melvin to discuss a surprise financial and critical flop of 2024, Joker: Folie à Deux! Is it really as bad as everyone says? At the very least there's a LOT to talk about, and everyone takes turns diving deep into Todd Phillips' follow-up to his billion-dollar success!

Topics:

• (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 30 minutes discussing 2 favorites from 2024 and 1 favorite first-time watch for 2024, why they’re favorites, and a few honorable mentions at the end. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)
• Recap: What do Jen, Sarah, and Melvin think of Joker (2019)?
• Sarah on Joker: Folie a Deux, “…anytime [Lady Gaga’s Harley Quinn] was at the center, I’m like “Okay! I’m happy!”.”.
• Jen feels the first film is ostensibly a better made product, but found this sequel was far more thought-provoking.
• Melvin outright liked the movie, saying that he could understand why people didn’t like the movie but had extreme difficulty seeing the film as “bad” or even “mid”.
• All three agree: Joker: Folie a Deux is prime for becoming a future cult classic.
• Discussing music, the usage of Arthur Fleck’s color scheme, embracing artistic flare at the expense of logic, and “build a mountain”.
• Turning trials of justice into entertainment.
• Does Arthur deserve to die?
• Talking Gary Puddles.
• Talking Lady Gaga’s “Lee Quinzel”.
• Discussing that controversial ending that left a lot of fans sour.
• Melvin, “It’s sad to see [Arthur] go.”

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